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Loose emerald 7.22 ct, IGI certified, on liveauctioneers.com. How much it is worth?
Perfectly explained, @Freddie! Cheers!
Perfectly explained, Freddie! Cheers!
See lessTanzanite ring – fake or real
Hi, Noni! No, I wouldn't be concerned that this might be a scam. You see, tanzanites are not very expensive. Therefore, there are not too many fake tanzanites around. Visual characteristics are definitive - it is natural tanzanite. It looks pretty nice. Far from perfect but nice. You should note thaRead more
Hi, Noni!
No, I wouldn’t be concerned that this might be a scam. You see, tanzanites are not very expensive. Therefore, there are not too many fake tanzanites around.
Visual characteristics are definitive – it is natural tanzanite. It looks pretty nice. Far from perfect but nice.
You should note that 1.5-carat tanzanite is really nothing special. This size would be something for a diamond but not for tanzanite. Loose tanzanite of this size and quality can be bought for under $100. Thus, the most expensive part here is the 18K ring setting, not tanzanite
So, you have no reason to get confused by this price. I’d say, it is reasonable, provided you like the ring and are buying it to wear.
However, if you are considering it as an investment (you mentioned “investment”), then there is really nothing to invest in.
Hope this helps!
Sincerely, Editor J
See lessRubies, Emeralds & Sapphires Earrings & Pendant. Seller TrulyVenusian on Etsy. Are these gemstones natural or not?
@Freddie is right that these rubies look like lead glass-filled. It's because they are lead glass-filled. @Anna is absolutely right that these earrings look Thai-made. It's because they are Thai-made. And yes, she is right about the price! $385 (£294) is absolutely outrageous for this jewelry set. FRead more
Freddie is right that these rubies look like lead glass-filled. It’s because they are lead glass-filled.
See lessAnna is absolutely right that these earrings look Thai-made. It’s because they are Thai-made. And yes, she is right about the price! $385 (£294) is absolutely outrageous for this jewelry set.
For the sake of clarity, I’d like to add that this seller, TrulyVenusian, is a liar. She states in her Etsy profile: “I have been passionate about making jewellery for about 30 years. Then I learned how to make pieces from scratch, usually inspired by a vintage theme or iconic woman from history”
She keeps on bragging about “best materials” and “beautiful architecture, vintage fashions, costume dramas”.
Passionate about making jewelry? Hmmm, are you sure that’s what you are passionate about? 🙂
Surprise, surprise, she states she does not take commissions “because my head is already too full of my own designs, and my house is full of half-finished jewellery”.
Your own designs?! Really?!
Let’s face it: this is not the true reason for not taking commissions. Most likely, she has no clue about how to make jewelry. That’s the true reason why she doesn’t take commissions! 99% of the jewelry she is selling is Thai-made. Almost all of it has been purchased from sellers like egemdiamond and gemsporium on eBay.com. TrulyVenusian’s prices are 10 to 20 times higher than the original prices on eBay. People, wake up!
And she has 1220 admirers! Crazy!!!
925 Sterling silver bracelet with Sapphires on Etsy. Are these sapphires natural?
Dear Enigma, It really depends on what you mean by "natural sapphires". These are not man-made or synthetic sapphires. So, in that sense, you could say they are natural. However, they are treated. And by treated, I don't mean heated sapphires which is an industry-accepted treatment method. Most of tRead more
Dear Enigma,
It really depends on what you mean by “natural sapphires”. These are not man-made or synthetic sapphires. So, in that sense, you could say they are natural.
See lessHowever, they are treated. And by treated, I don’t mean heated sapphires which is an industry-accepted treatment method. Most of the sapphires on the market are heated.
These sapphires here, instead, are what is called cobalt-lead glass-filled sapphires. They are also called lead and cobalt glass filled sapphires, cobalt-doped glass-filled sapphires, or cobalt-doped composite sapphires. In essence, these are composite sapphires.
A very low-quality starting material is used – opaque, industrial-grade stones. It is then mixed with powders that contain lead and cobalt. This mixture is heated fusing the powders into a cobalt-lead glass that penetrates the fractures and cavities in the stone. Lead-cobalt glass can account for most of the stone’s weight.
Basically, the technology is pretty much the same as that used for the lead glass-filled rubies. The main difference is that for the cobalt-doped composite sapphires, as the name suggests, cobalt is used.
These composite sapphires have the same durability problems as lead glass-filled rubies do. And yes, they are almost worthless (just like lead glass-filled rubies).
£137.79 (ca. $179) is definitely not a good price for this bracelet. You can easily buy alike bracelets at a price around $40 – $60 on eBay (note: at auction, not “buy it now” format). So, this price here is 3 to 4 times higher than what would be reasonable for a composite sapphire bracelet.
You can read more about composite rubies (in order to better understand issues related to composite sapphires) here:
10.00cts Natural Black Diamond Ring on eBay: Diamond Treatment – Color Enhanced. Is that ok?
Color enhancement is a routine treatment method for black diamonds. So, nothing is wrong with that. Of course, treated diamond (just like any other gemstone) would be cheaper than 100% natural one. Most of the black diamonds are actually color enhanced on the market. So, that's perfectly ok. The proRead more
Color enhancement is a routine treatment method for black diamonds. So, nothing is wrong with that. Of course, treated diamond (just like any other gemstone) would be cheaper than 100% natural one. Most of the black diamonds are actually color enhanced on the market. So, that’s perfectly ok.
See lessThe problem with this “diamond” is not that it is color enhanced but that it is not a diamond at all. I mean, it is a fake diamond. Natural black diamonds (enhanced or not) are never this perfect. They do always have some nicks and chips, and the color is never this even and perfect. There is a mixture of black and somewhat grayish areas and even some white dots.
Take a look at the image I have attached here – this is what a real black diamond would normally look like.
The price is another indicator that this is a fake here. $99 would be a reasonable price for a 2.5 to 3-carat loose, color-treated black diamond (if you are buying it at the right place, of course), but definitely not for a 10-carat beauty.
I just wonder how this fraudster has managed to retain a 100% positive feedback…
Are these emeralds on auctionet.com genuine?
They relisted both items about an hour ago :) I wonder, is that a proof of shill bidding or the buyers were ultimately smart enough not to pay for these fake emeralds...
They relisted both items about an hour ago 🙂 I wonder, is that a proof of shill bidding or the buyers were ultimately smart enough not to pay for these fake emeralds…
See lessNatural Top Red Ruby & Fancy Sapphire 728 Cts Necklace on icollector.com auction site. How much should I bid?
FoxyFox, This price estimate, as well as the start price, is the most outrageous nonsense. Indeed, the necklace is very nice. However, it is important to note that these sapphires are diffusion treated and rubies are lead-glass filled. This is a Thai-made piece of jewelry. This is not to say that thRead more
FoxyFox,
This price estimate, as well as the start price, is the most outrageous nonsense. Indeed, the necklace is very nice. However, it is important to note that these sapphires are diffusion treated and rubies are lead-glass filled. This is a Thai-made piece of jewelry. This is not to say that there is something inherently wrong with it; it is just not worth the price. I am 99.9% confident that this necklace comes from eBay seller gemsporium or egemdiamond (actually this is one and the same seller with two accounts).
See lessI’d suggest you check out this seller. There is a pretty good chance that you will find exactly the same necklace at some point. If it is not there at the moment, it might be a good idea to contact the seller and ask him when this necklace will be in stock again.
Normally, the price of such a necklace is around $600 – $700 if you go for “buy it now”. However, if you are lucky, you can win it on an auction at a price even lower than that – $300 – $400. This is what it is actually worth, not $5700. Icollector.com business model is based on unreasonably high price estimates and start prices. In addition, they do not disclose the information on gemstone treatment. Yet another online auction site engaging in dishonest business practices.
Return denied by an online auction house. Reason – private seller. What to do?
Arnold, I do understand you. This kind of situation can be really frustrating. I agree with you that the auction site should step in and facilitate the return and the refund. You mentioned that they keep the money for two weeks. Is the auction site in question Catawiki? I know that they would hold aRead more
Arnold,
I do understand you. This kind of situation can be really frustrating. I agree with you that the auction site should step in and facilitate the return and the refund. You mentioned that they keep the money for two weeks. Is the auction site in question Catawiki? I know that they would hold all the payments for two weeks. Anyways, this system is designed to boost trust in the buyers, to make them feel safer, more protected. And if it’s not working to your benefit in a situation like this, then what’s the point to have it in the first place?
See lessWhat they are saying about private sellers (non-business sellers) is true. The EU law with its right to cancel and return your order within 14 days does not apply here. However, this situation here has nothing to do with the EU law. I mean, the auction house (auction site) can have its own policy in place in order to protect its customers. It wouldn’t be against any law to expand this coverage so that private sellers’ customers are equally protected. And that would be very easy to do as long as the money is still in their account. So, there is no excuse for them not to do that. Except that they are not interested in that. It is bad for the business, I mean. They would rather earn their commission on this sale, and you are left with all the losses.
So, I would suggest you try to convince them that it is their obligation to step in and to protect your lawful interests. However, if it is already too late (they don’t have your money any longer), or you do not succeed in convincing them, here are a few things I’d suggest you give a try:
1. Check whether this seller is selling a lot of items. I mean, does it look like he/she is selling personal belongings from time to time or is it rather a business activity aimed at gaining profit? A lot of private sellers are not really private sellers within the meaning of the law. They are selling a large number of items on a regular basis and for profit. As a rule of thumb, they are not paying taxes. So, it might be a good idea to tell them that if they wouldn’t go for a refund, you might contact their tax authorities and pass on the information concerning tax evasion. I think this is by far the best approach. It has helped me several times actually.
2. Tell the seller that you would contact the police. As you rightfully noted, it can be regarded as fraud if there are serious discrepancies between the description/images and the actual goods. If the seller was from China, this wouldn’t help, but as the seller in question is from the EU, there is a pretty good chance he might reconsider his position.
3. Tell them that you have a powerful blog (e.g. for collectors of antique furniture) with millions of monthly visitors and you will start writing about them if you don’t get your refund. Tell them that in the long run this would hurt them much more than this single refund.
Let me know how did it go!
12.25 CT GGL CERTIFICATE UNHEATED EMERALD RING 925: eBay
First of all, I would like to say that I agree with everything @Anna has said here. I have bought several "gemstones" with GGL certificates, and they all turned out to be cheap fakes. But I also want to share an interesting experience I have had with eBay's feedback scores. A few years ago I neededRead more
First of all, I would like to say that I agree with everything Anna has said here. I have bought several “gemstones” with GGL certificates, and they all turned out to be cheap fakes.
See lessBut I also want to share an interesting experience I have had with eBay’s feedback scores. A few years ago I needed three small diamonds for a piece of jewelry that I wanted to be made for me. I found these accent stones at a decent price and quality on eBay. I believe the seller was from Hong Kong or Singapore (don’t remember exactly). The seller had a few hundred unique feedback and it was 100% positive. So, I had no reason not to trust him. I ordered the diamonds, paid for them, and after several weeks received the parcel. From the very start, they did not look right. I have seen and held in my hand many diamonds, but these ones simply didn’t look right. I tested them with my diamond tester – no reaction. Brought them to a lab and it turned out to be glass. If a seller decides to cheat me, I would expect to receive moissanite or some sort of crystal in the worst-case scenario. Really, glass?! I was shocked! 100% positive feedback and they send me worthless glass!
Anyways, after lengthy arguments, I was able to return the purchased items and received a full refund. Of course, I wanted to warn other potential buyers about such dishonest and outrageous practices. So, I left negative feedback. No explicit or offensive language, no swearing or anything. Just mentioned that I bought diamonds, received glass instead, it was testified by an official, trustworthy lab, be aware. So, everything was in line with eBay’s policies.
After a month or so I recalled this incident and decided to check upon this seller’s feedback – isn’t there more negative feedback from other scam victims. What a surprise! The seller had 100% positive feedback again, and my feedback had disappeared. I wrote an e-mail to eBay asking to explain what was the reason for deleting my feedback. They never bothered to reply. Then I understood that eBay’s feedback scores have to be taken with a grain of salt. I still do pay attention to them but I always remember this experience I had.
Emerald necklace – Catawiki auction
@Anna is absolutely right on this - it is dyed beryl. This is the way it goes - they (manufacturers of these items) take low-quality beryl (usually white) and dye it with green color. When it is dyed, it is impossible to tell what the initial color was. Now it is green and it is beryl. As you may knRead more
Anna is absolutely right on this – it is dyed beryl. This is the way it goes – they (manufacturers of these items) take low-quality beryl (usually white) and dye it with green color. When it is dyed, it is impossible to tell what the initial color was. Now it is green and it is beryl. As you may know, green beryl is called emerald. However, not when it is dyed. They can call it whatever they want, but it is nothing more than cheap, dyed beryl after all.
See lessWhat amazes me is that Catawiki’s “experts” keep on accepting and listing these items for years. And they allow labeling these items as emerald necklaces, bracelets, etc. Could it be that they don’t know what it is? Possibly, but then they are no experts. Could it be that they do know what it is? Possibly, but then they are fraudsters.
This listing made me laugh. Through the tiers, though. Catawiki auction site proudly presents itself as listing only unique and special objects. They say they have professional experts vetting every submitted item. They say all the auctions are supervised by a notary public. And they do not allow to use stock images in the listings. What a shame! What a shame when you compare their words and actions! Here is the original listing of this item on eBay (with the same images :)): https://www.ebay.com/itm/Green-Emerald-1161-50-Cts-Earth-Mined-4-Strand-Round-Shape-Beads-Necklace-Rare/362439204534? (just in case this listing gets removed by eBay, I attach the screenshot here, too).
So, to cut the long story short, I am happy for you, Martin65, that you didn’t bid on this item. I have no intention to say that everything is fake and bad on Catawiki, but you have to exercise due care because most of their “experts” are good for nothing. Or they are instructed to close their eyes to many things. Who knows…